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I35A - Thunder – an old woman.




21 Myths, Legends and Folktales
21 Unique Narratives for Motif I35A
12 Cultures & Traditions where I35A is told
32 Mythemes Indexed
7 Sub-Motifs of Motif I35A


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Ю.Е. Березкин, Е.Н. Дувакин. Тематическая классификация и распределение фольклорно-мифологических мотивов по ареалам. Аналитический каталог.



Summary of Motif

Thunder is produced by an old woman in the sky.

Berezkin category: Supernatural objects, objects and creatures

This is of motif type Cosmology and etiology and is part group 3, Cosmogony, the earth and the sky, etiology of the elements, natural and biological phenomena (fire, water, soil, thunderstorms, dream, etc.), cataclysms and cosmic threats, spirits of nature


I35 has 7 other sub-motifs


I35.  Thunder is produced by a (tanned) animal skin or (rarely) a person being dragged, or clothing being dragged behind or shaken out.
I35a.  Thunder is produced by an old woman in the sky.
I35a1.  The character claims the role of the thunder god and imitates him.
I35a1a.  The character considers himself equal to the deity, imitating him, mocking him or trying to kill him.
I35a2.  Thunder is heard when stones or large vessels are rolled, dragged or overturned in the sky.
I35b.  The sky is considered to be metallic. The process of its creation resembles metal forging.
I35b1.  The sky is made of ice.
I35c.  One of the mythological characters who, using his craft skills, first makes (usually forges) tools and natural objects; he is the patron of craftsmen (usually blacksmiths).

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Top 10 Motifs with similar dispersal patterns

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B73A98.57%A girl (a young man, a girl with her brother; two little brothers) searches for a lost horse, cow, sheep and, as a result (alone or with her brother; both brothers), turns into a bird (usually a cuckoo) with a characteristic call.
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K95A98.57%The lovers are buried in the same grave or nearby. Two plants grow in this place, reaching towards each other, and between them is a thorny bush, embodying the character who separated the lovers.

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This motif has been recorded in 12 traditions: Lithuanians, Russians: Central part of ethnic territory as in A.D. 1500 (Tver, Yaroslavl, Moscow, Kostroma, Vladimir, Ivanovo, Nizhny Novgorod, Ryazan, Tula, Kaluga, Smolensk provinces; in case of absence in other areas also Russians in Vyatka, Perm, Kazan provinces), Wakhi, Ishkashimi (including Sanglich), Munji, Yagnobi, Tajik, Nogai, Talysh, Kara Kalpak, Uyghur, Hui (Dungan) of Xinjiang, Gansu, Shaanxi, Shanxi, Inner Mongolia, Qinghai, Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan (Dungan texts from Southern and Eastern China are clustered with the Chinese ones), Turkmen, Galicians


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