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J41D - Throwing a stick, he exposes his forehead.




34 Myths, Legends and Folktales
34 Unique Narratives for Motif J41D
17 Cultures & Traditions where J41D is told
0 Mythemes Indexed
4 Sub-Motifs of Motif J41D


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Summary of Motif

The strongman orders an iron club (sword, etc.) of monstrous size to be made, but breaks it and demands a new one, even heavier (often throwing it into the air and exposing his forehead, etc. – the club breaks).

Berezkin category: Avenger heroes: The amerinday cycle

This is of motif type Adventures and tricks and is part group 10, Adventures


J41 has 4 other sub-motifs


J41.  The hero leaves for a long time. When he returns, his relative does not immediately believe that it is really him. All this time, someone has been mocking him or her, imitating the voice of the departed, saying that he has returned and/or throwing ashes in his or her face.
J41a.  The son returns and finds his mother, who has been humiliated and tortured in his absence. The son turns his mother (and usually himself as well) into a bird of a certain species.
J41b.  The son returns, finds his mother, who was humiliated and tortured in his absence, and burns his tormentor and his men, summoning fire and heat with magic.
J41c.  The character goes to fight a dangerous enemy. Along the way, he is given tasks to complete. This is a sign that he will defeat his enemy. Usually, the same tasks were previously given to another character who was unable to complete them and was defeated by the enemy.
J41d.  The strongman orders an iron club (sword, etc.) of monstrous size to be made, but breaks it and demands a new one, even heavier (often throwing it into the air and exposing his forehead, etc. – the club breaks).

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Top 10 Motifs with similar dispersal patterns

MotifSimilarityMotif Summary
M16899.91%Hares are desperate because they are more cowardly than everyone else, but they rejoice when they learn that there are animals (frogs, sheep) that are afraid of them.
L120A99.84%The hero hides in a smithy from the dragon chasing him. When the monster breaks through and rubs the door (with its tongue), the blacksmith (or the hero himself) burns it (usually clamping its tongue with red-hot tongs or throwing a red-hot club into its mouth).
B9099.78%There is an anthropomorphic patron, master or mistress of wolves; he usually gives instructions to the wolves on a certain day of the year.
L94B99.70%A person promises to give to a supernatural character the first thing that comes their way (either something they have not yet seen in their own home, or something that is behind the door, etc.). The person thinks that they will have to give something of little value, but it turns out to be their own child.
I59B199.62%The Milky Way – the road to a distant city, usually with religious significance (Rome, Jerusalem, etc.).
M39A2C99.50%A fool (or a character pretending to be crazy) sows salt (small objects) like a grain.
M90A599.50%The story mentions the golden fruits (rarely leaves) of a tree, usually golden apples.
K12899.48%A character orders the hero to graze animals (or birds) and promises to execute him (deprive him of his reward) if even one animal is lost. Cf. K128B (ATU 570).
K12299.41%Having penetrated the world of a powerful woman, unattainable without the support of supernatural helpers, the man returns. The deceiver tries to take credit for the feat. The woman whom the hero met in her world finds him and punishes (rejects) the deceiver.
L100B99.40%Having escaped from his pursuers, the young man parts with the girl, intending to return for her soon, but forgets her. When he is about to take another wife, the girl manages to restore his memory with the help of magic, and she marries him. Alternatively, the girl, who has briefly parted from her magical spouse, herself forgets him after an embrace or a kiss in her parents' house.

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This motif has been recorded in 17 traditions: Kabylia and other Berber of Northern and Central Algeria: Beni Snous, Beni Menacer (incl Zuav), Shaui, etc.), England, British, Bretons, Basques, Germans: North (Low- and Central German dialects): Schleswig-Holstein, Mecklenburg, Pommern, Niedersachsen (Lower Saxony, incl East Frisia and Oldenburg), Nordrhein-Westfalen, Hessen, Rheinland-Pfalz, Thüringen, Saxony-Anhalt, Sachsen, Brandenburg, Rügen, Slovakians, Slovaks, Serbs, Monte Negro, Balkarians, Latvians, Western Ukrainians, Byelarusians, Belarusians, Abkhaz, Abkhazians, Kalmyk, Anatolia Turks, Mordvins, Eastern Ukrainians, Northern Ukrainians, Lutsi (Ludza), Russian Federation


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