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I4B - Thunder in trouble: fighting the enemy.
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Summary of Motif
A person helps thunder defeat the enemy.Berezkin category: Supernatural objects, objects and creatures
This is of motif type Adventures and tricks and is part group 10, Adventures
I4 has 7 other sub-motifsI4. When a vehicle moves across the sky, thunder rumbles. I4a. Thunder falls to earth and cannot rise. Usually, a person helps it return to the sky. I4b. A person helps thunder defeat the enemy. I4c. The enemy of the thunderer temporarily defeats and captures him. I4d. An enemy steals a weapon (usually a musical instrument) used by the thunder god to summon a storm. The thunder god or his assistant comes unrecognised to the thief, takes possession of his weapon and kills his enemies. I4d1. An enemy steals the tendons (heart and eyes) of a thunder god, who returns them and prevails over his enemy. Cf. motif L57A, "The hero's companion returns his organ." I4e. An anthropomorphic deity (associated with thunder and rain) rides on a cloud or a cloud. I4F. The hero and his opponent engage in single combat and are still fighting in the sky. This is thunder. Click here if would you like to see a distrbution map combining all of I4's motifs? |
Top 10 Motifs with similar dispersal patterns
| Motif | Similarity | Motif Summary |
|---|---|---|
| K38B2 | 91.22% | A character (almost always a giant bird) brings the hero to its nest, after which the hero accidentally or at the bird's request kills the monster that was devouring the character's children (usually chicks). |
| L30 | 87.92% | The one who broke the food taboo experiences terrible thirst and drinks a huge amount of water. |
| K10B | 87.26% | A huge bird carries away to its nest a cage, bag or other container in which people are located. See motif 10A. |
| L69 | 86.09% | A monster attacks a person; a puma, jaguar or dog fights the monster, kills or drives it away; the person returns home. |
| K41 | 85.93% | A character representing a thunderstorm or a giant bird fights a snake or other large creature living in water or underground. |
| L28 | 85.67% | A person who eats unusual or forbidden meat or fish, or touches something forbidden, turns into a reptile or a fish. |
| J22E | 84.78% | The second character emerges from the afterbirth of the first. |
| I80A | 84.73% | Upon meeting the Thunders, a person becomes one of them. |
| J40 | 80.65% | The sky is inhabited by creatures that descend to kill people. Usually, the creature carries away a person or many people, or a human head. The hero (usually a close relative of the deceased) avenges the killer and/or returns the kidnapped person (persons; the carried-away body part). |
| I65 | 80.15% | The Milky Way is a path to another world, followed by the souls of the dead and/or shamans, or it is the path of a funeral procession. |
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This motif has been recorded in 14 traditions: Miao (Hmong) and Yao of Southern China, Lithuanians, Western Ukrainians, Lenape (Delaware), Five Nations Iroquois (Seneca, Mohawk, Onondaga, Oneida, Cayuga), Sarsee (Tsuu T'ina), Mandan, Arikara, Assiniboine, Hidatsa, Cherokee, Tzutujil, Tzotzil, Tzeltal