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I4A - Thunder in trouble: falls to the ground.




53 Myths, Legends and Folktales
53 Unique Narratives for Motif I4A
30 Cultures & Traditions where I4A is told
0 Mythemes Indexed
7 Sub-Motifs of Motif I4A


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Summary of Motif

Thunder falls to earth and cannot rise. Usually, a person helps it return to the sky.

Berezkin category: Supernatural objects, objects and creatures

This is of motif type Adventures and tricks and is part group 10, Adventures


I4 has 7 other sub-motifs


I4.  When a vehicle moves across the sky, thunder rumbles.
I4a.  Thunder falls to earth and cannot rise. Usually, a person helps it return to the sky.
I4b.  A person helps thunder defeat the enemy.
I4c.  The enemy of the thunderer temporarily defeats and captures him.
I4d.  An enemy steals a weapon (usually a musical instrument) used by the thunder god to summon a storm. The thunder god or his assistant comes unrecognised to the thief, takes possession of his weapon and kills his enemies.
I4d1.  An enemy steals the tendons (heart and eyes) of a thunder god, who returns them and prevails over his enemy. Cf. motif L57A, "The hero's companion returns his organ."
I4e.  An anthropomorphic deity (associated with thunder and rain) rides on a cloud or a cloud.
I4F.  The hero and his opponent engage in single combat and are still fighting in the sky. This is thunder.

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Top 10 Motifs with similar dispersal patterns

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I14A96.41%People without anuses regurgitate what they have eaten through their mouths or other (marked) orifices. See motif I14.
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G2494.46%The first seeds (shoots, tubers) of cultivated or important wild food plants and/or agronomic knowledge were brought from the sky (received from the gods).
E793.55%The path from one part of the world to another passes through a narrow opening. The character gets stuck in the opening, permanently severing the connection between the worlds.
H492.38%Those who change their skin (bark, clothing) are immortal (forever young). (Cf. motif K56a5a: Skinning oneself to become young: To become a young beauty, an old or ugly woman asks to have her skin skinned off).
I2991.79%A character climbs into an animal's burrow and finds himself in the underworld, or digs a deep hole and finds himself in a world inhabited by burrowing animals.
H891.54%Unable to bring themselves to touch something unclean, poisonous, dangerous or hot, people lost their immortality (var.: did not receive the blessings that came to Europeans).
M44B91.21%The character discovers that someone is stealing game or fish from his trap, mountain, etc. or ravages his garden, vegetable garden, field; he or his messengers wait and catch the thief. The kidnappers are women, or the aquatic animal is the kidnapper, but when caught, it gives the hero a woman.
F7691.12%People learn how to make love by watching birds, fish or animals mating; animals teach people how to make love or arouse desire in them.
C191.05%In the past, a catastrophic shift in the layers of the universe occurred or will occur in the future. Among the variants (sometimes combined): the sky fell to the earth; the present earth or underground world swapped places with the sky; the earth turned upside down; it fell into the underworld; the layers of the universe successively collapsed onto the earth or will swap places in the future.

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This motif has been recorded in 30 traditions: Tonga, Hehe, Pangwa (Upper Rufudji area), Bena, Matumbi, Ngoni, Pogolo, (Ma)konde, Mawiha, Bemba (Wemba, Babemba; incl Ambo, Lala, Lamba, Bisa), Holoholo, Kaonde, Melanesians of the northern coast New Guinea, nearest off-shore islands and Huon Gulf (Morobe district): Watut, Bilbil (Bilibili), Jabim (incl Kai), Tami, Bukawac, Wogeo, Tumleo, Yakamul, Manam, Sissano, Sio, Ontong Java, Nukumanu, Takuu, Nukuria, Yap, Batak (Toba, Dairi), Northern Luzon: Apayao, Bontoc, Nabaloi (Ibaloi), Ifugao, Igorot (highland people, not specified), Ilocan, Ilongot, Isneg, Kalinga, Kankanay, Tingian (Tinggian, Bilongan Itneg); Ibanag, Kasiguran Agta, Keley-i Kallahan, Bulgarians, Balkarians, Kalmyk, Kets, Southern and Central; Ryukyu Islands: Yaeyama, Miyako, Okinawa, Reindeer Koryak, Eyak, Aztec; Aztec and Teotihuacan iconography, Chinantec, Mazatec, Zapotec, Chatino, Cuna; XVI century data on Eastern Panama, Pemon: Arekuna (incl. Kamarakoto), Taulipang (Taurepan), Tupari, Makurap, Sakirap, Ajuru (Wayoro), Nambikwara, Ayoreo, Chamacoco (Ishir), Mataco, Toba (incl Pilagá), Caduveo, Mbaya, Ndebele, Pedi, Thonga (Tsonga incl Ronga), Hlengwe, Matabele (Tebele), Tonga (Tsonga; incl, Soli, Sala, Lenje), China, Japan


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