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H36FF - The raven betrays man.




57 Myths, Legends and Folktales
56 Unique Narratives for Motif H36FF
26 Cultures & Traditions where H36FF is told
105 Mythemes Indexed
17 Sub-Motifs of Motif H36FF


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Ю.Е. Березкин, Е.Н. Дувакин. Тематическая классификация и распределение фольклорно-мифологических мотивов по ареалам. Аналитический каталог.



Summary of Motif

The raven (crow) or other large bird of prey tries to kill people and/or is responsible for the fact that humans (tigres: domestic animals) are mortal or susceptible to disease.

Berezkin category: Paradise Lost

This is of motif type Cosmology and etiology and is part group 4, Origin of death, diseases and hard life


H36 has 17 other sub-motifs


H36.  A character is sent to deliver instructions or certain items. The messenger distorts the message, brings the wrong items, loses what he is carrying, delays (and is overtaken by another messenger). This has important consequences for him and for the future lives of the people.
H36a.  The character distorts the message conveyed to him, deliberately lies, brings the wrong thing, loses what he is carrying, delays (and is overtaken by another messenger). As a result, people become mortal (they do not revive after death).
H36aa.  The messenger must tell people what they should do if they want to avoid death, but he distorts the instructions and people become mortal. In Mesoamerican variants, it is not about people in general, but about a specific character.
H36b.  The chameleon is to blame for the fact that man is mortal or that he must labour; he loses the trust placed in him by the deity. See motif H36.
H36c.  The lizard is to blame for the fact that man is mortal. See motif H36.
H36d.  The hare distorts God's command and/or is responsible for the fact that humans are mortal. See motif H36.
H36e.  The rat is to blame for the fact that man is mortal.
H36f.  The raven is sent to deliver an important item or message. He distorts the message or loses what has been entrusted to him.
H36ff.  The raven (crow) or other large bird of prey tries to kill people and/or is responsible for the fact that humans (tigres: domestic animals) are mortal or susceptible to disease.
H36g.  God sends a messenger to the people to tell them to eat infrequently (once a day, once every three days, etc.). The messenger says that one should eat often – at least two or three times a day.
H36g1.  When a bull (ox, cow) is ordered to convey certain instructions to people, he confuses them or deliberately distorts them.
H36g2.  When a character, who later became a dung beetle, was ordered to convey certain instructions to people, he distorted them.
H36gg.  The coyote is to blame for the fact that humans are mortal.
H36h.  Creatures, including a frog or toad, must cross an obstacle. This does not go as planned and results in humans becoming mortal.
H36hh.  The frog or toad is to blame for the fact that humans are mortal.
H36i.  The goat or sheep is to blame for the fact that man is mortal. See motif H36.
H36j.  The lark is to blame for the fact that man is mortal.
h36k.  Trees try to prevent humans from appearing on earth, fearing that they will cut them down.

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Top 10 Motifs with similar dispersal patterns

MotifSimilarityMotif Summary
I2395.18%The door of the house opens and slams shut by itself, crushing those entering or leaving. See motif I22.
M4993.95%The hero meets a character from the enemy camp and, taking on his form, penetrates enemies. Usually, the hero kills the person he meets and puts on his skin.
M29X193.40%See the motives in square brackets.
K27A93.03%Test: spend the night in the cold (the antagonist tries to destroy the hero in this way). See motif K27. Compare motif M35: two zoomorphic characters compete to see which of them will sit out the night in the cold.
B8591.56%The wind blows too strongly, it is forced to calm down.
C1691.24%Contrary to human desire, processed skins, tools, and (meat) food (again) turn into (those) animals (from whose body parts they were made). Cf. motif M84.
B42H91.22%Orion's Belt – game, another star or group of stars within or outside Orion – hunter.
M84B190.40%A person enters a country from where fish come to people (and comes back).
K27O390.06%Two groups of characters compete in overcoming trials or play a game, divided into two teams (at least two episodes with different characters on both sides). The participants are either anthropomorphic but possess different unusual abilities, or they are different animals (natural phenomena, elements, etc.). Cf. motif K27xy (Characters with different properties in opposing camps).
C16A90.05%The offended mistress of animals or fish takes them and food supplies away. See motif H32A.

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This motif has been recorded in 26 traditions: Berbers of southern Tunisia and adjacent part of Libya (Matmata and Ghadames areas), Algeria Arabs, Geez, Tigrai, Tigre, Arnhem Land: Enindhilyagwa (Groote Eilandt), KuTiwi, Yulengor, Mara, Oenpelli, Murngin, Roper River, Maung, Murinbata, Murngin (Duwal), Millingimbi, Goulburn Island, Ngulugwongga, Yirrkalla, Voctoria River Downs, Alawa, Anu, Kunwinjku, Tajik, Persians, Armenians, Talysh, Bashkirs, Buryats: Western (cis Baikal), Mongols (Khalkha), Khakas, Southern Altai: Altai proper (Altai-Kiji), Telengit, Altaians, Tungus (Evenki): Baikal region, Evenks, Japanese folklore outside of Ryukyu, Nunivak Island, Tagish, Tahltan, Gwich'in (Kuchin, Loucheux), Thompson (Nlaka'pamux), Lushootseed (Puget Sound: Puyallup, Nisqualmi, Snuqualmi, Duwamish, Muckleshoot, Snohomish, Skagit), Lower Chehalis, Upper Chehalis, (Lower) Cowlitz, Quileute, Chemakum (Hoh), Quinault, Jicarilla, Egypt


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